State of Wisconsin v. Nicolae MiuCase No. 22 CF 518 Transcript of Interview with Landon Meyer By: Investigator Andrew Dittman 29:00 Dittman I’m Andy, I’m an investigator with the sheriff’s office. This is Dusty works for the St. Croix county sheriff’s office, we’re investigators today obviously you experienced a pretty traumatic incident and we just want to talk to you about what transpired today go into a little bit further details um. Can I get your first name from you bud? LandonLandon l-a-n-d-o-n Weyer Dusty takes parents info at the same time Dittman uh what’s your middle name Landon Landon Joseph j-o-s-e-p-h Dittman yep and meyer Landon weyer Dittman Weir w-e Landon w-e-y-e-r Dittman w-e-y-e-r let’s just step over here just so. What’s your date of birth bud Landon uh August 15th 2004 Dittman good cell phone number for you Landon [PHONE NUMBER REDACTED] Dittman What’s your current address Landon 3368 00:00End of video continues in next video where it left off LandonWebster Court, Stillwater, MN Dittman what’s the zip code for Stillwater Landon55082 Dittman say that again Landon 55082 Dittman: alright so we’re going to start from the beginning of your day today. So It’s my understanding you and your group of friends, you guys met at Stillwater high school and you guys all rode over to Apple River with Alex in his vehicle. Is that accurate? Landon yep Dittman ok what time did you guys meet today at the high school Landon around 12ish Dittman 12 o’clock? Landon yeah Dittman Alright Landona little bit before Dittmana little bit before, so maybe 11:45ish Landon11:30 11:45 ish Dittmanok. Do you know what time you got to the Apple River? Landonmm it was 17 minute drive so 17 after the time that we-actually we probably sat in the parking lot for probably 10 15 minutes and then we left so 17 minutes from there so Dittmanalright Landonwe probably got there around- I don’t know I don’t want to do the math Dittmanno you’re good, I just trying to get an idea, it sounds like you guys all have a similar time frame so do you recall what part of the Apple you went to or rented-did you rent tubes Landonuh yeah just the part that you rent tubes at, the biggest one Dittmando you remember what that was called where you rented the tubes? Landonuh Apple River River something DittmanRiver’s edge? Landonsomething I don’t- Dittman River’s Edge, ok so you get to River’s Edge, we’ll just say shortly after noon just take me through what happens. What do you guys do? 11:11 LandonSo we get on, we start having a good time. We start off really slow wekept getting stuck on stupid stuff [inaudible]. We started drinking alcohol Dittmanyep Landonand we just going down the river, we ate at one point. You know thenormal things-everybody going down the river and then Dittmanso what was your-let me just stop you for a second what was your guys plans today just float down the river? Landonfloat down the river Dittmandid you guys have any plans of staying at the campground or LandonI was planning on probably going to a graduation party after Dittmanok Landonthat’s what’s going on with my day but um yeah so we just floating down the river and then once we got towards I’m pretty sure-well actually I’m not sure at all Dittmanthat’s ok Landonbut it seemed like it was close towards the end Dittmanyep 02:29Landonof where this all happened and um there was this guy that at least fromwhat my memory is is he didn’t have a tube. He was just walking aroundlooking crazy weird and he had like goggles on, snorkel. He just lookedsuper weird and we were all like oh why don’t you have a tube. Whatever,whatever. Just like calling out the situation of it [inaudible overlap] Dittmanjust chirping him a little bit. Was he saying anything to you guys or? Landonyeah he I mean immediately you just the vibe of woah this guy’s not he’snot [inaudible] he gave me a very creepy vibe DittmanI guess what do you mean by that Landonhe looked like he was either on drugs or on something just completelylike just a psychopath not looking real- he didn’t look-he didn’t look atpeople like a normal person looks at someone he just- Dittmandoes it appear he’s looking through you Landonyeah kinda like that yeah Dittmanok Landonjust pure craziness in his eyes and he just started clearly like like takingcrazy offense to someone just saying that. You would think if he was just a normal person he would probably just like these kids are just beingwhatever you know I’m just minding my own whatever you know but helooked crazy like offended by it immediately. He came up to us and then we were like woah this is getting weird my buddy was videotaping thewhole thing and then this guy just starts Dittmanso let me stop you for just a minute we you guys, the first time you encountered him were you guys floating, stopped Landonfloating, floating Dittmandid you guys stop Landonah actually I think we were floating we were kind of like we were really decently close to him like when we first started looking at him Dittmanwhat do you mean by decently close, like me to you away? Further Landonprobably like 20 feet away Dittmanok Landonlike 20 feet away from us. I think it was pretty shallow there cause Dittmanjust to gauge about 20 feet so maybe to the water away Landonyeah, yeah Dittmanok so that’s about 20 feet ok Landon he was like-we started slowing down cause our butts were touching the bottom or whatever it was super shallow and then he started towards us and then like one person jumped out of their tube cause he was like now like grabbing on to our tubes I think seriously just like right next to us so then people started getting up and moving around and then he-when we first came at him he was like we were right here and I was positioned at him this way and he was like over here and then like somehow he ended up being right behind him and he was like 2 feet away from and looking just crazy and by this time there’s people like other people are seeing this weird thing taking place and probably thinking why is this old man-and we’re all screaming like woah woah what’s going on. What’s this guy doing this? This guy’s crazy, he’s weird and now people are also saying like what is this guy doing. People around could clearly tell that this situation was not right 05:05Dittmanlet me stop you for one second. Did you know anybody else besides yourfriends and your group Landonno me, Jawahn, Alex, Isaac Dittmandid you- you didn’t know this guy at all? Landonno Dittmannever met him? Landonno Dittmanno ok Landonand I don’t know the people that were also shouting at him either Dittmanok so there’s another group of people that heard you guys obviously c chirping this guy talking to him, they get involved, what do they do? Landonwell so a girl comes up, I think she had blonde hair, she comes up and she was like in his face cause as I said this guy was being really weird she could clearly tell something was wrong so she was also talking back saying leave these kids I assume something like that Dittmanyep Landonand then I just saw him punch her crazy and then she hit the ground and then immediately other guys came as soon as he punched the girl. Abunch of guys came got on him, got on the ground and then the next thing I knew I saw someone cut open on the ground with their intestines out and I was just stuck just looking at what was going on completely just like what was going on 06:08DittmanWhere was Isaac do you know do you remember at that point LandonI don’t know cause I think the stomach thing happened definitely before by the time cause I was looking at that and I remember looking back andI think Isaac was kind of on a tube and I just saw pure blood coming intothe water just spraying out of him and I was just like what is going on,what is going on. Some one was pulling off the guy with the intestines somebody was pulling him to the side and all of the sudden my buddy Owen and Alex started taking Isaac to the shore and then I was just stuck I couldn’t move. I was just going crazy and I was by my friend Ryan and then I was about to go to Isaac and Ryan was like oh no stay here for asecond. just I don’t even know. I was just standing there crazy. Confused Dittmancan you describe this guy do you remember what he was wearing 07:00Landonuh yeah Dittmanor what he looked like Landon no shirt on. I think he had a green swim suit on he had Dittmanlike swimsuit what do you mean shorts or Landonlike Dittmanlike swim trunks Landon yeah, yeah. And uh like I said he had a scuba diving thing on and he had really short um what do you call it silver just black hair Dittmanyep Landonand he was fat and uh Dittmanany facial hair or tattoos or anything Landonyeah facial hair I don’t know about tattoos but I’m pretty sure he had facial hair Dittmanalright LandonI just Dittmandid you see a knife LandonI didn’t see nothing. All I saw-the first thing I saw was someone laying on ground with their intestine out and then I like probably blanked out for a second and was just like what- and then I looked back and just saw Isaacjust on the tube bleeding out and then like I said people pulling them out and I was with my buddy Ryan for a second cause he wanted me to staywith him and eventually ended up walking all the way over to Isaac andseeing Isaac just DittmanSo prior to this encounter, with this guy today. How would you say the day was like good vibes or Landonyeah good vibes just Dittmanjust having fun with your buddies Landonjust going down the river just [inaudible] everyone around us talking to everyone just having a good time. Everyone seemed normal everyone was having a good time floating down the river everything was Dittmanso, so if I’m and correct me if I’m wrong, if I’m understanding this correctly you guys kind of had one encounter with this guy and then youhad another encounter with him or did this kind of evolve into one 08:28Landonnah it all happened, it was all one thing. He comes over boom, boom, boom. Like I said then he comes to the back and then he’s it’s just all onething. Calling him out for looking weird, he immediately comes up to us,he’s saying crazy stuff I can’t even tell you what he was saying but Dittmanlike charging up to you guys or Landonno he was just walking up like fast clearly coming at you like if I was coming at you like Dittmanright Landonlike you would be able to tell I was coming at you. Like clearly coming at you. He wasn’t sprinting or anything he was in water Dittmanchest puffed out or just coming Landonyeah just coming up just you know Dittmanok Landonclearly looking like I said looking absolutely not like a real human being that’s normal and then like yeah everything just happened and I was likeyeah Dittmanwas everybody drinking today in your group Landon yeah everyone was Dittmanalright and again this is I could really care less about your guys’ alcoholconsumption from law enforcement standpoint I just want to get a gaugehow much do you think you had to drink Landoncouple beers and DittmanWhat’s a couple beers I hear that quite often Landon 3ish, 4ish Dittman3 beers ok. Anything else Landona couple shots [inaudible] Dittmanshots of what LandonI think it was Tito’s. a couple shots and then uh Dittmanwhat kind of beers were you guys drinking today do you recall Landonuh I don’t know. They’re blue I don’t recall Dittmanit’s alright if you don’t recall, you don’t recall that’s alright Landonyeah a blue bottle DittmanI’m not going to judge you based on what you were drinking um whatIsaac was he consuming alcohol today 10:02Landonyeah Dittmanhow much did he have LandonI couldn’t personally tell you exactly what he had DittmanI mean was Landonwe were all just kind of on the same level just having a good time Dittmanhave you been around people that have consumed alcohol before Landonyeah Dittmanlike adults or Landonyeah Dittmanok what when I say drunk or intoxicated, how would you describe his demeanor 10:27Landonhe was probably drunk Dittmanok Landonwell I think actually he had said a couple times throughout it he wastelling me he would ask how drunk is everybody here and like I would sayI’m drunk to be honest and then he would be like I’m not that drunk right now I’m just like- Dittmanwas he able to maneuver on his own ability Landonyeah he was Dittmanhe didn’t have to Landonyeah If I would say anything he was probably the least drunk there Dittmanok alright did you every see Isaac talk to this guy or say anything to him or approach him Landonno, no like I said we were all talking just pointing out the weirdness and then he came up and we could all immediately sense the situation was weird and something was wrong so like I said we all got out of our tubes and then he was still coming at us and then the girl came in and did her thing and then she got punched other people come in. we were all just kind of standing around just like as soon as he came over we pretty much just stopped talking like woah woah what’s going on this is crazy like Dittmanyeah Landononce he came over everyone was scared so 11:23DittmanSo after you see the intestines you realize somethings not right, people bleeding-what happens from there Landonthey pull intestine guy off to the side, pulled Isaac off to the side startpumping his chest. Owen was-Owen was sitting right here, Al was righthere so they were both really on him. They drug him out. And then other people started helping. People came up to me trying to hug me and stuffwhatever just everyone was kind of just sitting around, standing aroundand then like someone helped Jawahn find his phone. Someone found his phone, we didn’t even find his phone and then our stuff kind floatedaway I was able to get my phone Dittman’s phone rings Dittmanhold on one second bud Dittman answers phone and the video ends when the call ends new starts 00:00 Dusty:mental health is huge so you gotta make sure [inaudible] ok Dittmanis there anybody else that we haven’t talked to? Landonuh you talked to Alex, you talked to Owen, you talked to Jawahn[inaudible] Dittmanyes I believe so Dustyhe’s got my card with my number and the case number Dittmanok alright Dustyin the days ahead if you can think of anything that’s pertinent that you can think of please reach out to us let us know and we’ll walk you through it Dittmanare all you guys-is everybody still here. Let’s go over and chat for a minute. Is there anybody here that was with the group of friends today that Dusty or I have not talked to. Um I don’t know how to break this newsto you Isaac is deceased. He did not make it. So I’m going to encourage all you guys it sounds like you guys are real close tight knit group ofpeople to reach out to each other and lean on each other during thistime ok? So it’s a homicide investigation moving forward um I don’t know how else to break the news to you guys Dustywe really encourage you guys to lean on one another help each otherthrough this and we’re really sorry for your loss ok. We’re going to be doing everything we can to put this together and get justice for your friend ok. You guys have our contact information please reach out to usif you need anything ok Dusty and dittman spend the remainder of the minute and a half discussing logistics